Tax expert John O. Fox raises several important questions the candidates do not want to hear. His new book contains a chapter about unfair taxation of low-income singles. Question 9: Single and Paying for It
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Monday, April 12, 2004
Online Chat: The Singles Penalty
It's that time of year, when one of life's two inevitabilities comes around again. Yes, time for taxes. Time to struggle once more with the voluminous U.S. tax code as we labor to figure out how much we might or might not owe Uncle Sam this year. If you find the whole process mind-bendingly daunting, there's a good reason why. The tax code is full of inconsistencies and unfairnesses, says tax expert John O. Fox, who discusses one you might not be familiar with in his Sunday Outlook piece, For Singles, April Really Is the Cruelest Month. Everybody's aware of the marriage penalty, but how many people have ever heard of the "singles penalty"? That's right -- singles are unfairly, uh, singled out by the federal government to pay income tax even when they're living at the poverty threshold. Congress rightly recognized the injustice of the marriage penalty and has made fixes in the code to alleviate its effect on families with children, but now it's time to stop treating singles like second-class citizens, Fox argues.Fox was online Monday, April 12, at 2 p.m. ET to take questions about the singles penalty and other absurdities of the U.S. tax laws. Fox teaches tax policy at Mount Holyoke College in South Hadley, Mass., and is the author of "If Americans Really Understood the Tax Code" and "10 Tax Questions the Candidates Don't Want You To Ask." Here are excerpts from online conversations of taxpayers with Mr. Fox. ________________________________________________ John O. Fox: Hi. I'm John Fox and am delighted to have this
opportunity to chat with so many of you. My article touched off an
incredible number of reactions. I have received about 90 emails so far from
all over the country. Most people thanked me for standing up for the single
person; the message from so many of you has been that you feel you have not
had the respect you deserve just because you haven't married or had
children. Some emails were very upset with me. They read my article as a
criticism of tax relief for Fran and Bill, the couple with kids. I have
asked them to reread the article because I was very clear to say that
singles should not resent the fair treatment of Fran and Bill. Rather,
singles have a right to ask that they too be allowed to have enough income
to pay their basic expenses before they are taxed. Some emails insisted that
I was single and therefore had no idea what it was like to be married. I let
them know that I have been married for nearly 40 years and have two
wonderful children, but I never thought that was reason to treat singles
badly. _______________________ Washington, D.C.: What REALLY burns me up about this is the assumption that I am single by choice and therefore should be penalized by paying higher taxes than someone who was fortunate enough to find someone they wanted to be married to and have/raise children with. Singles are already discriminated against in the workplace (my boss leaves every Monday at 4:30 p.m. because of Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts or something or other child-related) and I'm expected to stay here and hold the fort down despite what I may have planned. John O. Fox: I have heard now from lots of people like you who feel the discrmination about being single. It has been there for decades. One of the reasons, and I believe it is the principal reason, is that singles as a group have poor voting records. They don't put pressure on the candidates to change the tax laws so that they are fairer to single people. I'm hoping this article will help generate some interest among singles to let candidates know that they care a lot where the candidates stand on this issue. My guess is that the candidates will begin to care to if they think their election may be in the balance. _______________________ Berthesda, Md.: I appreciated your column, being a long time single myself. But be prepared to take a lot of heat in this chat. In my years of singlehood, I have rarely seen a married person who doesn't think that they are entitled to more of everything, are morally superior, AND that singles are basically a lower form of life. In earlier Post chats, I have seen singles faulted for things like the moral depravity in our culture, and one poster on the Federal chat thought that single feds should pay for part of family medical insurance premiums! I agree that no one should be penalized for being married or single, but the reality is that our culture validates only those who couple up, especially those conservative Republicans. Thanks for giving concrete examples of the inequities in our tax system, but I think hell will freeze over before politicians acknowledge the unfairness to single people. John O. Fox: You point out a disturbing trend that I believe is applicable to issues beyond the treatment (or mistreatment) of singles. From the emails I received that were critical of my article, so many assumed that I must be single in order to advocate the rights of singles. As you may have seen in my introductory remarks, I am married with two great kids, but never thought that was reason not to care about the welfare of seniors. It seems to me that we have been encouraged in recent years to care only about ourselves. Therefore, to advocate the rights of others becomes the exception. I hope this trend changes. We're all in this great nation together. And it seems crucial that we work together for a fairer tax system, and a fairer society, regardless of where we happen to stand on the income ladder. _______________________ Chicago, Ill.: I was just thinking about the unfairness of this when I was completing my taxes last weekend. The same amount of income would be taxed 25 percent less if a married couple were reporting it instead of me. That's crazy People should not have their marriages subsidized by the federal government. Because I choose to focus on my career and get married at an older age, I end up paying more in taxes. I keep hearing that single women are the key demographic in this year's election. Why hasn't this "Singles Penalty" issue been brought up yet? Why aren't more singles outraged? We keep hearing about the "marriage penalty" and reductions and credits for dependent children, but nothing about the higher rate of taxes that single people with no children pay. The government is in effect taxing my lifestyle choices and that infuriates me. My coworker is married with a child. He makes the same amount of money as I do. His wife chooses to stay home and not work, just as they as a couple chose to get married and procreate. Why should I pay more in taxes than my coworker? It's ludicrous. No one force his wife to stop working. No one forced them to have children and no one forced them to marry. Why should they financially benefit from their lifestyle choices? And why should I be penalized for mine? Actually, my real question is, why aren't single taxpayers LOUDLY voicing their outrage? John O. Fox: You've hit it on the head. If singles rallied this year, letting the candidates know that they "won't take it any more," I'm confident you're going to get a lot more attention from the candidates and from the media. Singles have not banded together. Maybe some of you will create a website and begin to map a political strategy so that the media notice you as well as the candidates. I think it will work. Good luck! _______________________ Herndon, Va.: Dr. Fox: I'm married, but my family and I agree the whole tax code is out of whack. (We were hit for the first time this year by the AMT!) Rather than focus on specific inequities, shouldn't the entire federal income tax code be changed? John O. Fox: The central argument of my first book, If Americans
Really Understood the Income Tax (2001) was precisely that. I argued that
both true conservatives and true liberals should demand that Congress get
out of the business of micromanaging our economic decisions through the tax
laws, and should also stop using the tax laws to reward certain forms of
social behavior. In fact, about half of our individual income isn't taxed
because of one tax relief measure or another. The consequence is a tax code
that produces highly arbitrary results. People with equal abilities to pay
rarely pay equally, and often people with much higher abilities to pay pay
less. I believe our system should be reformed so that our tax burdens have
much more to do with our ability to pay taxes than our ability to avoid
them. What does this mean? _______________________ Chicago, Ill.: There is no marriage penalty. Do we think that up to now the tax code was written to favor singles? The old saying that two can live as cheaply as one has a lot of truth in it. I think it recognized that married people didn't have to buy two refrigerators, sofas and stoves, etc. Married couples only need one kitchen, one bed, one television, one stereo, one carpet, etc. They only have to write one rent check, one check for homeowner's insurance, one phone bill, one electric bill, etc. A single person doesn't get to split these costs the way married people do. In truth there really is a singles penalty not a marriage penalty. Too bad critical thinking is rare among our politicians. John O. Fox: One of the interesting aspects of a few emails that were critical of my article was the failure to recognize your point about economies of scale. One writer assumed that a family of 4, Fran and Bill with their two kids, automatically would have 4 times the expense of Bill. I pointed out to them, as you have indicated, why this wasn't so. Fran and Bill would not need an apartment or house 4 times as expensive as Fran's, they wouldn't need 4 refrigerators, 4 bathrooms, etc. Indeed, although I believe the poverty thresholds are too low, the government recognizes these economies of scale by setting the poverty threshold of a family of 4 at $19,000, only twice the poverty threshold of a single person. _______________________ Arlington, Va.: Doesn't your article mix apples and oranges by comparing the tax burden of a family of four to a single person? Many of the benefits accruing to the family are because of the various deductions and credits for dependent children. Wouldn't a better comparison be between a single person and a married couple, and between a single parent with two children and a married couple with two children? That way, the comparison would hold everything constant except for the taxpayer's status as a single or married indiviudal. John O. Fox: Some others made a similar observation. They wanted
to compare people whose lives were closer to Meg's life. My answer, however,
is that I believe the comparison I made between Meg's situation and the
family of 4 is entirely valid, although it would have been equally valid to
make other comparisons such as the ones you mention. First of all, I wanted
readers to understand that Meg could never pay her basic living expenses on
$740 a month in most cities in the United States. Therefore, it was very
unfair of Congress to begin taxing her at such a low level of income.
Second, I wanted to make the point that Congress in fact ignores poverty
thresholds for other groups, such as the family of four. I did this not
because I thought that their lives were anything comparable to Meg's but to
underscore that Congress had concluded that their poverty threshold was
absurdly low for determining their income tax threshold. From this, I wanted
to make the final point: that it made sense to treat them this way because
they never could meet their basic costs at $19,000 a year; and Congress owed
similar consideration to single taxpayers. Make sure they have enough income
to pay their basic living expenses before taxing them, even if they have
high incomes. _______________________ College Park, Md.: It is defintely a discrimination by taxing rent. People who rent are usually poorer than those who can afford houses. For young people, rent is the only way they can choose. And in many places such as the greater D.C. area, rent exceeds in most cases the monthly morgage payment for a house. If anyone who purchase a home can get a tax break, why not the person who rents? I think it is a much important matter and more easy to change legally than the overtax for singles. Maybe this is the issue which should be raised to the Congress. John O. Fox: You've raised a very important issue. If the tax laws
are going to make accomodations for the costs of owning a home, why not give
a break to people who rent. In fact, as you say, renters as a group have far
less income than do homeowners; and we know that rents as a percentage of
the income of so many people are crippling. _______________________ What to itemize?: So singles don't itemize as much... I am a single who would like to start saving more receipts and better preparing to itemize next year. What kinds of things should I be saving? What's a good resource for a single person looking for simple strategies going into the next tax year? John O. Fox: It's not so much saving receipts as having expenses
that quaify for itemizing. By far the largest itemized deduction is the
mortgage interst deduction. Congress allows the deduction on up to $1
million of loans to buy, build, or substantially improve a principal
residence and/or a secondary residence. So, to begin with, if you rent, you
will have difficulty having enough itemized deductions to make itemizing
worthwhile. The other large deduction for homeowners is for property taxes.
Here, they can deduct the property taxes on not only their principal home
and a second home, but an endless number of vacation homes. You see,
therefore, how Congress has been incredibly generous in helping homeowners
who have the greatest ability to own homes without a federal subsidy. _______________________ Virginia: You mentioned you teach tax. Do you mean you're a tax lawyer or an accountant? John O. Fox: I mentioned in the introduction that I've been a tax lawyer for 36 years (I retired in 2001). I also taught a course at Catholic University's law school for many years on advanced estate and gift tax planning. I have a master's degree in taxation from Georgetown University. _______________________ Farragut Square, Washington, D.C.: The problem with the comparison in your article is that it ignores one of the implied goals of offering dependent deductions -- to keep children from living in abject poverty. While living expenses such as rent and utilities may not be significantly higher for a family of four as opposed to a single person, you better believe that health care costs, clothing, food, and day care more than make up for that difference. As a single person, I can get a second or third job to be able to cover my expenses. A single mother, or a couple with children would have to sacrifice time with a their children to do the same. John O. Fox: Let me say that I am prepared to raise the tax threshold for a family of four if that is necessary to assure them a level of income to meet basic living costs. I assume you will agree,however, that Meg too deserves to be treated humanely, and that at $740 a month, or even several hundred dollars more, she can't make it in most places in this country. Let's make sure the tax threshold is fair for everyone. Also I should add this comment. I believe that we should try to have as many people as possible pay some income tax, because I think it becomes very troublesome if we were to look only to people with very high incomes to bear the entire burden. This means that we want to be careful in setting these tax thresholds. _______________________ Laytonsville, Md.: Isn't it married couples with an income disparity who really benefit? In particular, couples where one spouse does not work. My spouse and I both work and have comparable salaries. As a result, I believe that we pay more than we would if we were single. John O. Fox: The rule of thumb is this: if one person has a high
income, and the other has a low income or none at all, marriage will result
in a marriage bonus. In other words, as you suggest, you will pay less
income tax if you marry than if you remain single. If you both have high
incomes, then you will pay some marriage penalty because you will pay more
taxes if married then you pay collectively while single. _______________________ Washington, D.C.: I read your article with interest and agree with it completely! I was just curious: do you think that singles are not speaking out because they hope to be married soon, and don't want to spend the time fighting for something they won't need in a few years time? With all the focus on how people need to be part of couple to be counted (and not just in terms of taxes, but in everything!) it seems possible. Thanks! John O. Fox: I don't know,but you may be absolutely right for
those singles who see themselves as getting married in the not-too distant
future. In fact, one of the most interesting public opinion polls
demonstrates the proposition you are suggesting, but in this case with
relation to the estate tax. _______________________ Haymarket, Va.: The main source of the inequity between single (and childless married) taxpayers is the $1,000 child tax credit. Why should the 75 percent of taxpayers without children subsidize the raising and educating other peoples children? It was their choice to have children, so why shouldn't they bear the cost of raising them? In my opinion, the child tax credit is grossly unfair. The press always refers to the "popular child tax credit". While it is certainly popular with those who receive the credit, it isn't popular with those like me whose taxes are comparatively higher because of it. Am I wrong, and if so, how? John O. Fox: You have raised a central question, and one that many
people raised with me. To what extent should people without children be
helping to subsidize families with chilren? We need to talk about this a lot
more. Let me suggest a few guiding principles that I believe should apply.
_______________________ John O. Fox: Our time is up. Hope this has been helpful. My best to you all. Thanks for tuning in. John Fox _______________________
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